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🗓️ 15 June 2025
⏱️ 113 minutes
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SkinnyTok is full of contradictions: You’ll hear you need to work hard to lose weight so you can be effortlessly chic; you’ll discover a world of corporeal obsession in which attaining a “hot body” is the ultimate form of pleasure. So why does it all feel so sterile?
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0:00.0 | Today's episode of Diabolical Lies was brought to you by the Dove Real Beauty Campaign, |
0:05.1 | Mark Zuckerberg sweating through his shirt about another scandal, the body mass index scale, |
0:10.3 | my fitness pal, and the limp dick editorial standards of Evie magazine. |
0:15.3 | Dude, the Dove Real Beauty Campaign, I still can think of that black and white thing where it's like, |
0:21.7 | and I see a true cut. And it's like a little, a little like freckled eight-year-old. That impacted me |
0:28.2 | heavily. You're like, thank you, Unilever. My body image issues are solved. Corporate activism does |
0:33.8 | make a difference in the world. Representation matters. That girl has freckles. |
0:39.8 | That girl looks like me, a white woman. |
0:44.3 | Caroline, what do you know about an influencer named Liv Schmidt? |
0:48.4 | I know that New York Magazine recently outed what looked to me like a cult, and she has been on a warpath ever since. |
0:57.4 | So I went onto her social media only following what happened to her, and I know that she's |
1:04.2 | mad. That's basically what I know about her. |
1:06.8 | So Liv Schmidt is someone who entered the broader public consciousness recently because of this profile in the cut by a woman named E.J. Dixon. |
1:14.9 | And before this, before she reached mainstream consciousness, she was a figurehead of a relatively niche online subculture called Skinny Talk. |
1:26.5 | Now, part of the reason why she gained notoriety beyond just |
1:30.1 | being, like, extremely thin, was because she kept getting banned on TikTok. So, this fact |
1:36.3 | alone meant that she got a bizarre amount of mainstream press. So, like, the Wall Street Journal |
1:42.6 | was the first major newspaper to cover her in September |
1:46.2 | 2024. Carol, I'm going to have you read the headline and subheadline of this piece for me. |
1:53.5 | Her skinny videos divided TikTok. She says they're what the viewers want. Subhead. |
2:04.9 | Liv Schmidt grew following with posts about staying thin in her daily diet. |
2:08.2 | Some users said her content promoted disordered eating. |
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