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Diabolical Lies

Liv Schmidt & the Sexless Allure of SkinnyTok

Diabolical Lies

Katie Gatti Tassin & Caro Claire Burke

Society & Culture, News

4.8607 Ratings

🗓️ 15 June 2025

⏱️ 113 minutes

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Summary

In this conversation…

SkinnyTok is full of contradictions: You’ll hear you need to work hard to lose weight so you can be effortlessly chic; you’ll discover a world of corporeal obsession in which attaining a “hot body” is the ultimate form of pleasure. So why does it all feel so sterile?



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0:00.0

Today's episode of Diabolical Lies was brought to you by the Dove Real Beauty Campaign,

0:05.1

Mark Zuckerberg sweating through his shirt about another scandal, the body mass index scale,

0:10.3

my fitness pal, and the limp dick editorial standards of Evie magazine.

0:15.3

Dude, the Dove Real Beauty Campaign, I still can think of that black and white thing where it's like,

0:21.7

and I see a true cut. And it's like a little, a little like freckled eight-year-old. That impacted me

0:28.2

heavily. You're like, thank you, Unilever. My body image issues are solved. Corporate activism does

0:33.8

make a difference in the world. Representation matters. That girl has freckles.

0:39.8

That girl looks like me, a white woman.

0:44.3

Caroline, what do you know about an influencer named Liv Schmidt?

0:48.4

I know that New York Magazine recently outed what looked to me like a cult, and she has been on a warpath ever since.

0:57.4

So I went onto her social media only following what happened to her, and I know that she's

1:04.2

mad. That's basically what I know about her.

1:06.8

So Liv Schmidt is someone who entered the broader public consciousness recently because of this profile in the cut by a woman named E.J. Dixon.

1:14.9

And before this, before she reached mainstream consciousness, she was a figurehead of a relatively niche online subculture called Skinny Talk.

1:26.5

Now, part of the reason why she gained notoriety beyond just

1:30.1

being, like, extremely thin, was because she kept getting banned on TikTok. So, this fact

1:36.3

alone meant that she got a bizarre amount of mainstream press. So, like, the Wall Street Journal

1:42.6

was the first major newspaper to cover her in September

1:46.2

2024. Carol, I'm going to have you read the headline and subheadline of this piece for me.

1:53.5

Her skinny videos divided TikTok. She says they're what the viewers want. Subhead.

2:04.9

Liv Schmidt grew following with posts about staying thin in her daily diet.

2:08.2

Some users said her content promoted disordered eating.

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