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Let's Talk About Myths, Baby! Greek & Roman Mythology Retold

Liv Reads Statius: The Thebaid (Part 4)

Let's Talk About Myths, Baby! Greek & Roman Mythology Retold

Liv Albert

History, Comedy, Arts

4.85.5K Ratings

🗓️ 23 May 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Liv reads The Thebaid, by Statius, translated by JH Mozley. The Argives, with Polyneices, prepare to go to war with Thebes. The Thebans ask Tiresias for help and a drought is sent to slow the Argives as they move through Nemea. Submit to the quarterly Q&A at mythsbaby.com/questions and get ad-free episodes and so, so much more, by subscribing to the Oracle Edition at patreon.com/mythsbaby

This is not a standard narrative story episode, it's a reading of an ancient source, audiobook style. For regular episodes look for any that don't have "Liv Reads..." in the title! For a list of Roman/Latin names and who they generally refer to in the Greek, visit: mythsbaby.com/names The three names for the Fates/Moirae are Clotho, Atropos, and Lachesis; the names of the Furies/Erinyes are Tisiphone, Megaera, and Alecto.

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0:00.0

The

0:07.0

The Hello, this is Let's talk about myths, baby, and I am your host, Live, here with that reading episode that I promised.

0:41.7

We are back to going through this slow, but very fascinating and weird reading of Staceous's Thebiod,

0:50.5

which is that Roman epic about a distinctly Greek myth and also one of the only surviving sources for all the details on that distinctly Greek myth, but again told through a Roman's eyes and during the Roman period of Greece. It's a little confusing, but this epic is so worth

1:15.4

the read anyway. Like normal reading episodes, remember this is lacking in some of the context

1:21.2

that I would normally bring you, just because it is just me reading the text. I do try to

1:26.2

kind of adjust the language where possible to make it a little

1:29.6

bit more understandable. But this, this epic is old. This translation is unfortunately fairly old,

1:35.6

but still, God, it's worth it. I love reading this stuff to you guys. So it's been a while.

1:41.4

These episodes are coming out really piecemeal just because I have so many amazing conversations to share with you.

1:46.6

So just a reminder that this is the epic about the aftermath of Oedipus and his family and all of the horrors that happen in the play by Sophocles and presumably in the myths that preceded it.

2:03.7

It is a little bit the story also of the Seven Against Thebes, which is the famous play by Escalis, but this epic is like kind of

2:08.2

taking all of that stuff and like just exploding it into this really, really enormous epic

2:13.8

scale that spans mythology in a much bigger way. And that's why it's so interesting because we

2:19.9

really do get this kind of like, we get this kind of really expansive idea of Thebes and this

2:26.9

sort of mythological time period in Thebes because it's Roman, right? So because it's being

2:32.2

written so late at this time when these stories are so

2:35.7

solidified into like the public kind of consciousness, because of that, it's able to touch on

2:40.9

like every little bit of mythological anything, really, that they, that, you know, Stations

2:47.8

could find to put into this or might have been connected to it

2:51.8

in ways that don't survive for us. All of this type of thing, it's a bit like wider reaching

2:56.5

and really covers like countless amounts of Greek mythology. But like in this Roman epic,

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