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a little happier. In episode 22 of The Happier with Gretchen Rubin podcast, my co-host and sister

Elizabeth and I interviewed singer-songwriter author, Roseanne Cash. We talked about many things,

including her brilliant memoir composed, which I love, and her Grammy award-winning album The River

and the Thread. At one point in the interview, she talked about what it was like to work with her

husband, the Grammy award-winning musician, producer, songwriter and recording engineer, John Love

and Thal. And she told a story that resonated with me deeply. And then I'm still thinking about

years after this interview. Here's Roseanne Cash. For me and John, he can be very hard of me.

Like high standards? Yes, high standards hard, not punitive hard, but

and sometimes I want to get away from that and go to somebody who thinks I'm just great.

Everything I do is great. You're awesome. You're so awesome.

Everywhere out of your mouth is just so awesome. First take, there we go. We did it.

Yeah, right. I mean, this is classic. The other or last year, I was doing a guest session on

somebody else's album. And John, we were in Nashville and it was this band, hardworking Americans,

and they asked me to sing on the song. So John just went with me to hang out. This is so

unusual for John. He does not go hang out at other sessions. So he was sitting in-

He has a work of holocah like a song. He is. So he was sitting in the other room and I finished

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