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Happier with Gretchen Rubin

Little Happier: Happiness Lessons from a Friend and His Messy Wife

Happier with Gretchen Rubin

Gretchen Rubin / The Onward Project

Education, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement

4.713K Ratings

🗓️ 12 April 2021

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Summary

During a funny conversation with a friend about his messy wife, he realized how he could have a more orderly house, without necessarily winning her cooperation. Get in touch: @gretchenrubin; [email protected] Get in touch on Instagram: @GretchenRubin Get the podcast show notes by email every week here: http://gretchenrubin.com/#newsletter Order a copy of Gretchen’s new book OUTER ORDER, INNER CALM here: http://outerorderinnercalmbook.com Leave a voicemail message on: 774-277-9336 For information about advertisers and promo codes, go to happiercast.com/sponsors. Happier with Gretchen Rubin is part of ‘The Onward Project,’ a family of podcasts brought together by Gretchen Rubin—all about how to make your life better. Check out the other Onward Project podcasts—Do The Thing, Side Hustle School, Happier in Hollywood and Everything Happens with Kate Bowler. If you liked this episode, please subscribe, leave a review, and tell your friends! To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Gretchen Rubin and this is a little happier.

0:03.6

A few years ago, I wrote a book called Outer Order Intercom because I was so intrigued

0:09.6

by the degree to which Outer Order contributed to Intercom for most people and certainly

0:15.2

for me.

0:16.2

Now, I've been doing strength training for years, so I've become good friends with my

0:20.6

trainer Mike and Mike and I often talk about mutual interests like habit formation, low

0:26.8

carb eating and clutter clearing.

0:30.8

Like me, Mike is someone who really thrives in orderly organized surroundings.

0:37.0

My sister, Elizabeth, calls me a happiness bully because I can get pretty forceful if

0:43.3

I think there's a way for someone to be happier.

0:47.0

So one day, when Mike was complaining about how messy his house was, I encouraged him to

0:51.9

tackle the clutter.

0:52.9

He'll feel so great, I told him, it's so energizing, it's so free.

0:57.9

He said, I know I feel exactly the same way.

1:01.1

The thing is, I'm really neat.

1:03.6

I like everything to be put away in its place.

1:06.1

But my wife is so messy, it drives me nuts.

1:10.3

How does this come up?

1:11.3

I asked, what are the conflicts?

1:13.1

I am a happiness bully.

1:15.2

Mike said, for instance, I'll be sitting down at the kitchen table to tackle some household

1:19.4

administrative tasks she wants me to do.

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