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Happier with Gretchen Rubin

Little Happier: Dolly Parton and Oprah Winfrey Talk about Humility and Hubris

Happier with Gretchen Rubin

Lemonada Media

Health & Fitness, Education, Self-improvement

4.713.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2019

⏱️ 4 minutes

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Summary

Back in 1992, Dolly Parton and Oprah Winfrey talk about pride, humbility, and hubris. Get in touch on Instagram: @GretchenRubin & @LizCraft Links and notes related to this episode can be found in the latest post here: https://gretchenrubin.com/podcasts/ Get the podcast show notes by email every week here: http://gretchenrubin.com/#newsletter Order a copy of Gretchen’s new book OUTER ORDER, INNER CALM here: http://outerorderinnercalmbook.com Leave a voicemail message on: 774-277-9336 Get tickets for our live podcast events in Seattle, Portland, San Fransisco, Chicago, Kansas City,  Providence, Philadelphia, Washington D.C., Atlanta and Charlotte here:https://gretchenrubin.com/events To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Gretchen Rubin and this is a little happier.

0:03.3

Yes, back to Dolly Parton.

0:06.4

I should really set aside some time to reflect on why I am just so interested in Dolly

0:12.7

Parton.

0:13.7

I haven't been as interested in anyone since Winston Churchill or St. Teresa of Luzia.

0:19.3

And I found myself reflecting on an exchange that I've written about before between Dolly

0:24.2

Parton and Oprah Winfrey on the Oprah Winfrey show in April 1992.

0:30.6

That is 27 years ago.

0:33.9

Now in my writing and thinking and reading, my subject is human nature.

0:39.0

I think about why do we do what we do?

0:42.1

How can we change if we want to change?

0:45.0

How are people alike and how different from each other?

0:51.0

One question I ponder within this larger subject is, why do some people who achieve

0:56.2

stardom bend under that pressure and succumb to its pressures and temptations in destructive

1:02.0

ways?

1:03.4

And why do other people seem to be able to withstand that pressure?

1:07.8

I suppose the answer is character.

1:11.4

But that just raises the question, what aspect of character?

1:15.0

Inborn qualities, beliefs, habits, relationships, experiences, what combination protects people?

1:22.8

Because I've thought a lot about this question, I was particularly interested in this exchange

1:27.9

between Dolly Parton and Oprah Winfrey about just that issue.

1:32.6

I feel so lucky that I've had the opportunity to make a good living at what I love to do.

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