Little Happier: Dolly Parton and Oprah Winfrey Talk about Humility and Hubris

Happier with Gretchen Rubin

Gretchen Rubin / The Onward Project

Education, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement

4.7 • 13K Ratings

🗓️ 26 August 2019

⏱️ 4 minutes

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Back in 1992, Dolly Parton and Oprah Winfrey talk about pride, humbility, and hubris. Get in touch on Instagram: @GretchenRubin & @LizCraft Links and notes related to this episode can be found in the latest post here: https://gretchenrubin.com/podcasts/ Get the podcast show notes by email every week here: http://gretchenrubin.com/#newsletter Order a copy of Gretchen’s new book OUTER ORDER, INNER CALM here: http://outerorderinnercalmbook.com Leave a voicemail message on: 774-277-9336 Get tickets for our live podcast events in Seattle, Portland, San Fransisco, Chicago, Kansas City, Providence, Philadelphia, Washington D.C., Atlanta and Charlotte here:https://gretchenrubin.com/events To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	I'm Gretchen Rubin and this is a little happier.
0:03.3	Yes, back to Dolly Parton.
0:06.4	I should really set aside some time to reflect on why I am just so interested in Dolly
0:12.7	Parton.
0:13.7	I haven't been as interested in anyone since Winston Churchill or St. Teresa of Luzia.
0:19.3	And I found myself reflecting on an exchange that I've written about before between Dolly
0:24.2	Parton and Oprah Winfrey on the Oprah Winfrey show in April 1992.
0:30.6	That is 27 years ago.
0:33.9	Now in my writing and thinking and reading, my subject is human nature.
0:39.0	I think about why do we do what we do?
0:42.1	How can we change if we want to change?
0:45.0	How are people alike and how different from each other?
0:51.0	One question I ponder within this larger subject is, why do some people who achieve
0:56.2	stardom bend under that pressure and succumb to its pressures and temptations in destructive
1:02.0	ways?
1:03.4	And why do other people seem to be able to withstand that pressure?
1:07.8	I suppose the answer is character.
1:11.4	But that just raises the question, what aspect of character?
1:15.0	Inborn qualities, beliefs, habits, relationships, experiences, what combination protects people?
1:22.8	Because I've thought a lot about this question, I was particularly interested in this exchange
1:27.9	between Dolly Parton and Oprah Winfrey about just that issue.
1:32.6	I feel so lucky that I've had the opportunity to make a good living at what I love to do.
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