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This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington DC,

and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm your host David Rothkopf, and it's that time of the week when we talk about legal matters,

often matters that have to do with the former president of the United States and sometimes the Supreme Court.

Today we've got two halves to this podcast, conversations with two of the smartest legal minds in the country,

and two of the people we'd like the best.

In the first half of this podcast, we're going to talk to Harry Litman, who is the senior legal affairs columnist for the Los Angeles Times and former US Attorney and Deputy Assistant Attorney General,

is also the creator and host of the very good talking feds podcast.

And then the second half of this show, we're going to talk to Barb McQuade, an MSNBC legal analyst and a professor of practice at University of Michigan law,

who co-hosts the Sisters-in-law podcast. So this is kind of a scissorgy of podcasts lining up to get the perspectives of the folks behind them.

Let's start off with Harry. Welcome, Harry. Are you?

Very good. It's so great to see you. I've been doing this a while, and people sometimes that, you know, teased me about SAT words.

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