I started out on the street a complete unknown and a brand new town with a new name living

as somebody completely different from once at a time and you get to know people and you start

to work your way through. So you're given your target list and you usually don't meet those

targets right away because you know you're meeting the people that work at the grocery store,

you're meeting the people at the laundromat, you're starting to you're hanging out at the

strip clubs all the time you're hanging out at the local bars and you're becoming known and

you're getting to know people and you really start to see things and you start to identify

what's going on but the the object of the job at least how I interpreted my rule was not to go in and

to get as many bodies or make as many arrests as possible it was to gather as much intel and if

there are people that are dealing drugs and breaking the law and committing violent assaults and

all of the things that go along with the culture that that's my job and I present the evidence

and I get the evidence and we always had to have more than one buy it's not like you do a buy and bust

you did several to show a repeated history that that's how the person is earning their money

it's not just you know I'm an I'm an attractive young woman and a bar and a guy gives me dope

because he's got other motives that's not a drug dealer that's a guy it's different

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thanks so much for taking the time to join us well thank you very much for having me I'm excited

to be here with you yeah it is my pleasure to have you here so I actually came across your work

by way of my former business partner Brian who I believe is friends with their husband and they

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