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I certainly would say that there's a real separation

between that instant recognition or the surface level validation that a

one hit wonder or some sort of thing that happens where there's an

Instagram or Tik-Tock or some other platform brings instant overnight notoriety

and then something that's built slowly and

it comes out of a

it's an authentic expression of who you are as an artist

and it comes out of real work, real labor.

It comes out of a thoughtfulness. It comes out of a vision of where you're hoping to go.

And I think, interestingly, in classical music, I don't have as many examples to offer sort of one side versus the other because the chops, the simple craft required to succeed in classical is such a laborious multi-year process to begin with as you well know from

your tuba work that it doesn't often breed that sort of overnight sensation. I'm Sreeny Rao and this is the unmistakable creative podcast where you get a window into the stories and insights of the most innovative and creative minds who started movements, built

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