Did you know at that time when you were a little kid that you were poor and this wasn't

No I didn't know until we moved to Sacramento I was in San Jose from like birth through about eight years old and I was in a very poor

neighborhood and went to a pretty bad school so I didn't know because I didn't see

nothing else. We moved to Sacramento we got a little better neighborhood

but first day I went to third grade, second grade, they took me back to the kindergarten class.

And I'm like Billy Madison in here, big as shit, all these other kids are tiny the rest of my classes playing outside and I'm

writing my letters on on a like a little chalkboard I'm like when I got older I was

like oh so we didn't really learn too much of that other school that was you know and

then now I'm with them and again although my parents

were functioning drug addicts they always put me in predominantly white

schools because I guess they wanted at the time to have me to have a chance and

be able to be who I was going to be so I hated that though because I never got to go to school with the kids I play basketball with or the kids in my neighborhood. It was always the school that was 98 or 99% white and although I'm half Italian and half black like I was dark so I was never

White enough and I was never black enough so I mean I fought my way

to respect and friendship and opportunities to play sports.

So it was tough, but again, as I started making friends, I realized like the first time I ate at a dinner table was with one of my white friends family

First time everyone on vacation was with one of my white friends family

What do you mean there you didn't have a table? We did it was tiny we all couldn't sit at it, but my dad was in the street, so my mom was cooking, you know, we kind of ate as dinner was served and we would eat it. You know, and that's not to say all the time, like we wouldn't, we never sat down at a dinner table together where there's time we'd all eat dinner at the same time but for the most part

Sitting down someone saying grace and all the food being in the center of the table and you kind of like that the stuff you see on TV like I never had that until I was with you

know a white family or my first vacation was with a white family so I never saw

the other side and never know that I didn't have money until I kind of moved the

Sacramento and started hanging out and kind of befriending some white kids that obviously had a you know their parents had some more money.

That's a lot.

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