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WW2 Pod: We Have Ways of Making You Talk

Goalhanger Podcasts

Society & Culture, History, Education

4.8 • 4.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 November 2024

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Listen to Legacy from Wondery and Goalhanger Podcasts. Each season, historian Peter Frankopan and broadcaster Afua Hirsch tell the wild stories of the most extraordinary men and women to have ever lived – and ask whether they have the reputation they deserve. Winston Churchill is a towering figure in British history. Born into an aristocratic family, he began his career as a soldier and war correspondent before entering politics. He was an early champion of social reform, and became Prime Minister in 1940 during Britain's darkest hour in World War II. His stirring speeches and indomitable spirit in the face of insurmountable odds helped lead the Allies to victory. However his views on empire and race have come under increased scrutiny in recent years, not to mention his role in the Bengal famine of 1943. Despite these controversies, Churchill remains a pivotal figure in 20th-century history, honoured for his crucial role in defeating fascism and shaping the post-war world. In this clip, Churchill faces unimaginable horrors in Cuba - but what’s an English soldier doing in a Spanish colony? Listen to Legacy on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts: https://wondery.com/shows/legacy/ You can listen to Legacy episodes early and ad-free right now by joining Wondery+. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Thank you for listening to We Have Ways of Making You Talk.
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0:13.0	Plus early access to all live show tickets.
0:16.0	That's patreon.com slash we have ways.
0:36.3	Hello everyone. We hope you're enjoying We Have Ways of making you talk.
0:47.2	We're jumping in here because we'd love to tell you about an amazing new show called Legacy, hosted by the brilliant historian Peter Frankaband, good friend of mine, and the broadcaster Affewa Hirsch.
0:55.6	It's a podcast which delves into the lives of some of the most incredible people to ever have lived and asks, do they have the reputation they deserve? So far,
1:00.2	they've covered icons and leaders like Alan Turing, Napoleon. I mean, these are big fish,
1:04.7	aren't they, Jim? Cleopatra. Massive. Gorberchoff, absolute giants of history whose legacy still impact us today. And this season, they're looking into the life of possibly the greatest
1:08.9	Brit and wartime leader to have ever
1:11.5	live Sir Winston Spencer Churchill. For a programme about reputations and about legacy, he's Moby Dick,
1:18.6	isn't he? He's the White Whale. They've gone for the biggest of the lot. They've gone for the
1:22.9	big one. Well, because Napoleon, you know, that's a long time ago. We can put Napoleon away, can't we?
1:29.4	Gorbachev were still living with it.
1:30.8	But Churchill, I think he's very, he's very, very interesting, isn't he?
1:34.1	Because he occupies that space that the Second World War occupies.
1:37.5	At some point, you've got to decouple him from being a charismatic war leader and all that in a kind of present sense and put him in
1:45.0	history, put him in his place in history.
1:47.4	But obviously he's...
1:48.0	Where he remains a Titan.
1:49.3	Where he remains a Titan, you see.
1:50.7	Whereas there's no two ways about it.
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