Hello, I'm John Robbins, and I'm dropping into your feed today to tell you about a podcast I think you'll like.

It's called How Do You Cope, a podcast where we dig deep and what it means to be human.

Each week I sit down with extraordinary guests, people you may know, people you might not, to ask the very simple question, how do you cope?

From grief and mental health struggles to moments of self-discovery,

we explore the journeys that have shaped their lives and helped them grow. But this isn't just

about the struggles. It's also about the hope and strength we find when we push through. Whether

it's hearing how someone turned a setback into a new opportunity, or how they found light in the

darkest of times, every episode is a reminder

that even in our most difficult moments, we're never truly alone. New episodes are available every Monday,

wherever you listen to podcasts. There'll also be bonus episodes filled with extra good stuff on Thursdays,

or if you're a Wondery Plus subscriber, you can listen to episodes early and ad-free on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or the Wondery app.

I'm about to play you a clip from my episode with Justin Hawkins, where he spoke about leaving the band The Darkness to help him recover from drug and alcohol addiction.

If you like what you hear, search and follow How Do You Cope wherever you get your podcasts.

So welcome, Justin, to How Do You Cope?

We're recording this a little bit later than we usually record these.

So we've both got our mugs of sleep tea.

So if they take effect throughout the podcast and it becomes too meditative,

people listening may may just fall asleep with how relaxing our chat is.

I think it's going to affect the cadence.

Very much so.

It's going to be like an ASMR recording.

Oh, I hope so.

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