Hello, dear listener, do we have a podcast recommendation for you? Can you ever fully recover from a trauma that's been played out in front of the world's media?

This week on How Do You Cope? John Robbins sits down with Amanda Knox, who at just 22 was wrongfully convicted of the murder of Meredith Kirchard. She spent four years in an Italian prison before being acquitted in 2011 and then fully exonerated in 2015.

In this raw and powerful conversation, Amanda opens up about the toll of her wrongful conviction, the misogyny at the heart of her case,

and how she's worked to rebuild her life.

It's an incredible listen, and because we are so nice, we're about to play you an extract from this very special episode.

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How Do You Coat with John Robbins right now, wherever you get your podcasts. You're welcome.

It's a very warm welcome to How Do You Cope to Amanda Knox? Amanda, thank you so much for making

the time to speak to us today. Oh, thank you. I love the concept of your podcast. Well, I wanted to start by asking,

for someone who has spent so long battling against other people's preconceptions of them,

whether it be their character or, you know, your guilt through lawyers, the media, and members of

the public, how do you feel coming into an interview

like this with someone, you know, you don't know, you don't know what my questions are going to be?

What's your sort of headspace? Well, you've inadvertently asked a very philosophical question

because you're right. I have no idea who you are. I have no idea

what version of me exists in your mind. And I've had to grapple with that my entire adult life,

knowing that very likely anyone that I encounter is going to have an idea of me that exists in their mind

and that my identity isn't just my own, that my identity belongs to everyone and is a part of this

entire ecosystem of humanity that we all inform each other and

the place that we exist in the world and the role that we are. And how do you, how do you

cope with that when the idea of you in people's minds is potentially so, so negative? Well,

one way that I cope with it is that I understand deep down

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