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This is a different type of episode for us. I feel like we say that a lot, but we're obviously

still feeling our way through this podcast. I'm personally learning how to have a podcast and

and to give a place for my voice and to have a perspective and to find a good way to channel that.

For me, I think one of the best things I ever did at Barstool, even in the interview process,

and certainly working here has been to listen and to embrace being uncomfortable to create progress

and to do new things. And obviously right now in America, there have been some incredibly tragic

events. There's been a murder and Minneapolis. There are protests both good and bad.

There is an inordinate amount of pain and hurt and strife and struggle that frankly has gone

back way too many years. And what I felt like the best thing that I could do was was to to use my

platform to create a conversation around what's happening with people who I'm close to.

The two people I asked to be part of this episode were trail withers. So trail withers is one of

the most talented people on social I've ever met. He is African American. He lives in Atlanta,

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