Listen Again: Life After Dark with Barbara Brown Taylor

Everything Happens with Kate Bowler

Kate Bowler

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Health & Fitness

4.8 • 5.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Author and Episcopal priest Barbara Brown Taylor is no stranger to darkness. After experiencing devastating loss, Barbara explores our culture’s pursuit of the sunny side of life. But perhaps there are things we learn in the dark that we can’t learn in the light. Kate and Barbara discuss the two halves of our lives and how to practice courage even in the scariest of circumstances. CW: Death of parents, tongue cancer For show notes, the transcript, and discussion questions, click here. Subscribe to Kate’s Substack for blessings, essays, and reflections that hold what’s hard and beautiful. This episode originally aired December 2022. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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1:09.3	Hey there, it's Julia Louis Dreyfus.
1:29.3	I'm back with a new season of Wiser Than Me, the show where I sit down with remarkable older women and soak up their stories, their humor, and their hard-earned wisdom. Every conversation leaves me a little smarter and definitely more inspired. And yes, I'm still calling my 91-year-old mom, Judy, to get her take on it all. Wiser than me from Lemonada Media is out now,
1:36.4	wherever you get your podcasts.
1:43.4	Hi, I'm Kate Bowler, and this is Everything Happens.
1:52.0	I began this podcast, so I didn't have to feel alone anymore.
1:56.1	How selfish is that?
1:57.9	I had just been diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, and I felt like I was going to suffocate
2:03.0	under the weight of everyone's reasons for why it happened. I needed a way forward without quite so many
2:10.1	cliches. So this is a podcast about when everything comes apart, and my conversations with friends and strangers along the way
2:19.5	who understood what it was like to fumble around and find a way forward.
2:25.7	I have a friend who has thought a lot about fumbling around in the dark, and I realize that she would
2:31.7	be the perfect person to ask about some of these questions. Her name is
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