For anyone who assumes this show is to discourage going to therapy, you should know that I own

a sweatshirt that says, go to therapy, and I wear it all the time. So why pose the question

Jesus and therapy? Because while I think most of us are on the same page to believe counseling

is a good idea for us, there's also a rising tide in culture that

has elevated therapy to the end-all be-all solution for our problems. And of course, I think

we need to talk about that. Welcome to Lisa Unfiltered on the Jesus Over Everything show where I say

what I mean, I mean what I say, and in every conversation,

I pray to keep Jesus at the center. Here we go.

So if you heard Wednesday's show, you heard from Sissy Gough, an amazing therapist from Nashville,

who I talked to about anxiety and parenting and all kinds of

things, but most especially how to be worry-free in parenting our kids. If you didn't listen,

go back and do that because it's truly an incredible show. But one of the questions I asked

Sissy, after we talked through so much, was this, what's the good news in all this? Where can we go from here to get

better and help our kids get better too? And Sissy did not miss a beat in her answer. She did not

hesitate and she said immediately, Jesus. And I love that answer so much. This therapist, this counselor who is

wise and counsels people all day for a living,

who has great process helps and steps and guides and provides good tangible and practical

to-dos and solutions for real everyday issues and answers and all of these things. She answers this way, Jesus, that's her answer.

And this is exactly what I believe is the best of the best about therapy.

When you go and find great therapy, when you go to wise, wonderful, trained people using their gifts and training to point people

to the ultimate hope and healing found in Jesus Christ.

And when that becomes a hand-in-glove experience and an important process, and when I can

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