From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

Welcome to the treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell. It's a pleasure to always have, whenever I get a chance to have an old friend.

And my old friend,

Lisa Henson, is here to do the show.

Probably with the time I met you almost, there's a film called The Dark Crystal, which

kind of transformed the pop culture or landscape.

Now, here we are a little bit after that, almost 30 years later, and Dark Crystal

Age Resistance is now on Netflix. Well, thanks

so much for being here. I don't want to upset you, but it's almost 40 years later. Because the

movie came out 37 years ago.

Movie is 82. 82. That's right. That's right. Yikes. Well, nobody's listening to the show for my math.

So let's clear that right now. But it's funny too, because I guess I was thinking, when you talked about this before, how much I find myself thinking about stuff like Mirror Mask, which is a favorite movie of mine and which you produced. And also kind of about almost a dream world existing within the real world. I just wonder that's something something is kind of an element of attraction if you're giving

your kind of educational background and everything.

So when you say my educational background, I'm sure you're referring to the fact that I majored

in folklore and mythology, which has drawn me into all kinds of sort of fantasy, storytelling,

rarely adaptations of actual fairy tales. You know, when the last few, in the last 10 years, there were all sorts of pop-cultory, big movies made of fairy tales. And I would sometimes think, oh, why didn't I think of that? I'm a folklore mythology major. But, you know, it was, for me,

it's never been about literally making fairy tale movies, but just about the type of archetypal

storytelling that the study of folklore is about. When I was a student, and just after I graduated

from college, actually, I pitched my father a concept for a

television show, which became the storyteller. And I don't know if you know that series,

but that was the way I wanted to see folk tales visualized, where there was a very strong

verbal component of the storyteller actually telling it orally.

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