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You know, Calendar Sust 2025, so fourth year in now.

Seems like a long time ago you had that introductory press conference.

And as in the weeds in the moment as you are, like, the way you

envisioned the USC experience going. And then all the changes around college football kind of

funneling into the way the USC experience has gone, how different has the reality been so far

versus sort of what the bigger picture vision was? It's good question.

It's definitely, I knew that it was going to be a big undertaking.

I mean, you could just look at it until there was a lot of work that was going to have to go into this.

So I don't think any of that's really been surprising.

And I knew to build up into becoming a perennial championship contender,

to be being able to play at that level all the time.

Like, I knew in my heart, like, that's going to take some time.

What you probably couldn't have completely predicted is all the other things that changed along with it.

And I think that has, that's certainly been a factor, I think, as we've gone on.

It's like you're kind of trying to balance the USC thing, but then also the college football thing at the same time.

And so we've had to adapt, certainly our plan at times. We really came in with

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