Welcome back to Hot Takes and Deep Dives, and I am here once again joined by Tony Trius,

co-host of MLVC, the Madonna podcast.

Hi, Jess.

I'm so happy to be here, and I just feel like you're going to have me arrested for

trespassing because I'm always over here.

Well, you're primarily here because this is going to be our, for lack of a better word,

our sort of like Lilith Faire extravagant, sort of the music that made us gay.

What I mean by that is kind of the soundtrack to my high school years and probably years

as well.

Yeah.

And so, you know, we're going to get into everything.

I have a few like blind spots where I want to be taught the holes in my musical evolution.

Yes, admitting the holes in my, admitting the holes in my musical evolution.

So before we get there, I think some people may be like, well, why is Tony, like, why

is a guy like copiulating this?

And I really, I want to shout out you and Damian Bolino.

I did my L Word deep dive with Damian Bolinos.

He's the co-host of a great podcast called You Might Know Her From.

And the two of you know more about lesbian shit than a lot of the women in my life.

And frankly, I feel like nobody, just like the catalog of knowledge that both of you

have is second to none.

And so, so the question is, how did that happen?

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