Hey, Milkstreet Radio listeners, for our Thanksgiving episode this year, we want to tackle your

greatest Thanksgiving cooking challenges, savory and sweet. So if you need a new side dish, for example,

or help with your pie dough, we're here to help. Email us at questions at milkstreetradio.com.

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This is Milkstreet Radio from PRX. I'm your host, Christopher Kimball. Today we're going beyond

soda bread and shepherd's pie to learn about the new Irish cooking

with chef J.P. McMahon. We discussed the joys of frying with animal fat, the best way to cook any

vegetable, and McMahon's fight against overcooked meat. I find turning down the lights and just

serving it medium rare and just making sure people can't see the color.

Because I generally find, probably about 70% of people will, if you blindfold them,

they would admit to it being nicer rare or medium rare than it would be well.

But it's just, I think it's your eyes that are tricking you.

Also coming up, Dan Pashman, I explore the art and science of ice cubes, and we make a crispy pasta from Puglia.

But first, it's my interview with Burkhart Bilger about his article, Can Babies Learn to Love Vegetables?

Burkhart, welcome to Milkstreet.

It's good to be here.

Your article in The New Yorker, Can Babies Learn to Love to love vegetables is really about something else as well

which is to figure out what babies want so right what have we done as a culture to research the

concept of what let's say a one or two-year-old really wants to eat?

I mean, there's been research at every level, I think.

There's been studies of how babies react to sugar, for instance,

and that's shown that babies want kind of insane concentrations of sugar.

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