Hello friends, welcome. So glad you're joining me today. I am chatting today with Mirislov

Wolf and Ryan McNally-Lins who are two of the three co-authors of a new book that I think

is going to really make you think. It's called Life Worth Living, a guide to what matters

most. And I loved that this book feels kind of like a college philosophy class. Instead

of telling you what to think, it helps you learn how to think. And I'm all about that. So let's

dive in. I'm Sharon McMan and here's where it gets interesting. Gentlemen, thank you so much

for joining me. I'm really excited to be chatting today. It's a pleasure to be with you.

Great to be with you. I read with interest your new book that you worked on together. You also

have another co-author. But one of the things that I was really interested in from the very beginning

when I cracked the book open, which by the way the book is called Life Worth Living,

one of the things that I was like, oh well, let's see if that's true. You have one of the sections

at the very beginning that basically says, this book might wreck your life. And when I opened it,

I was like, do I want that? Do I want that? Oh, that may be a two. Maybe I do. And I think you

will lay out in the book why that might be true and why that might actually be a good thing.

But Ryan, I'll start with you. Why do you feel like the audience might experience this book

wrecking their life? Well, all of us have these tracks that we run on in our day to day life.

And we've got ways of doing things that maybe we chose them a long time ago. Maybe they were

really intentional. But for the most part, and this is okay, this is kind of how human life works,

you've got to most of the time just get by by doing what you do because that's what you do.

The thing is that can lead us into places of kind of momentum that have us going in a direction

that from the inside feels all right to us. But if we were to stop and think about it,

we might realize that it needs to be totally upended. And so from the perspective of cruising along

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