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Worklife with Adam Grant

Life lessons from sports with Jody Avirgan

Worklife with Adam Grant

TED

Management, Worklife Podcast, Worklife With Adam Grant, Work Life Balance, Ted Talks, Podcast About Work Life, Ted Adam Grant, Adam Grant Podcasts, Ted Podcasts, Adam Grant, Organizational Psychologist, Business

4.89.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 February 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Jody Avirgan has played and reported on sports at the highest levels. After being one of the few professional Ultimate Frisbee players to be featured in a Sportscenter highlight, he pivoted to a career in radio, where he’s produced thoughtful stories on acclaimed shows like ESPN’s 30 for 30, Freakonomics, and 99% Invisible. Now he’s the host of Good Sport, a new podcast from the TED Audio Collective. Jody and Adam dive into what forges great leadership on and off the field, explore why certain cities and communities become hotbeds of talent, and discuss why sports are more than just fun and games. Transcripts for ReThinking are available at go.ted.com/RWAGscripts

Transcript

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0:00.0

Ted Audio Collective

0:06.6

I'm Sam Walburton and this is Captains. The podcast that gives you leadership insights from some of the biggest names in sport

0:14.2

I set the goal of becoming Olympic champion and broke it down into these tiny little steps so that every single session

0:20.3

That was me a genuine step towards that dream each episode is packed with practical tips to help give you the edge

0:27.3

You've got to have the intensity with it can flip over into anxiety when it flips over into anxiety

0:32.1

You got a problem it is self-improvement to open and honest storytelling

0:36.7

Listen to Captains with Sam Walburton wherever you get your podcasts

0:43.7

Hey everyone, it's Adam Grant welcome back to rethinking my podcast on the science of what makes us tick

0:49.3

I'm an organizational psychologist and I'm taking you inside the minds of fascinating people to explore new thoughts and new ways of thinking

0:57.7

My guest today is sports podcasting pioneer Jodi Avargan. He ran ESPN's 30 for 30 podcasts

1:03.9

Developed 538 podcasts serves as a podcast judge for the webbie awards and previously worked on WNYC radio

1:10.8

As well as shows like Freakonomics marketplace and 99% invisible never heard of them

1:16.7

He was also an elite ultimate frisbee player. He once made it on the sports center

1:20.9

Which is not something we disc junkies get to see every day

1:24.7

Jodi's the host of good sport a terrific new podcast from the Ted audio collective

1:29.4

Which is about how sports can make us think differently about every part of our lives

1:35.3

I've been a fan of your work for a few years now and I love the way that you draw lessons out from sports that apply to every walk of life

1:42.8

Yeah, and I guess the place I would love to start the conversation is how did you become so obsessed with sports?

1:48.9

Well, it's funny

1:49.9

I mean that word obsessed because you know when I worked at ESPN for a long time

1:53.8

But I worked in this pocket of ESPN 30 for 30 which is really kind of like let's use sports stories to try and tell larger stories

2:01.2

And draw larger lessons about life and you know we love sports

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