Letting Go of Shame That Isn’t Yours with Dr. Laurence Heller
Transforming Trauma
Brad Kammer
4.4 • 131 Ratings
🗓️ 9 April 2025
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
For all its popularity as a talking point, shame remains one of the least-documented human emotions.
On this episode of Transforming Trauma, host Emily Ruth is pleased to welcome back Dr. Laurence Heller, Ph.D., author, international trainer, and creator of the NeuroAffective Relational Model® (NARM®). The pair discuss the psychology of shame and its significant role in protecting attachments (or relationships) starting at a young age. This conversation also explores the benefits of a NARM-focused approach to shame and its impact on patients' personal agency, relationships, and quality of life. They also examine how shame, the emotion, informs behavioral patterns and how accessing anger can ultimately diffuse shame-based orientations.
About Dr. Laurence Heller:
Dr. Laurence Heller is the creator of the NeuroAffective Relational Model® (NARM®), international trainer, and co-author of Healing Developmental Trauma: How Early Trauma Affects Self-Regulation, Self-Image and the Capacity for Relationship and Crash Course: A Self-Healing Guide to Auto Accident Trauma and Recovery. Dr. Heller co-authored, with CTTC Training Director Brad Kammer, The Practical Guide for Healing Developmental Trauma: Using the NeuroAffective Relational Model to Address Adverse Childhood Experiences and Resolve Complex Trauma which presents one of the first comprehensive therapeutic models for addressing complex post-traumatic stress disorder (C-PTSD), introducing an integrated mind-body approach for treating attachment, relational, cultural and intergenerational trauma. Dr. Heller's forthcoming book, co-authored with Stephan Konrad Niederwieser, is untitled at the time of this podcast’s release.
Dr. Heller is the Founder & Director of the NARM Training Institute and teaches regularly in the US and Europe.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Transforming Trauma podcast. |
| 0:07.9 | Transforming Trauma is presented by the Complex Trauma Training Center. |
| 0:11.7 | I'm your host, Emily Ruth, and I'm so glad you've joined us today. |
| 0:16.0 | Are you a licensed mental health professional looking to deepen your clinical expertise in healing complex trauma? |
| 0:22.3 | We are thrilled to announce our summer 2025 NARM Therapist Training offering, designed to equip you with the transformative power of the neuro-effective relational model. |
| 0:32.3 | The summer online cohort for the NARM Therapist's training runs from May to December 2025. |
| 0:38.0 | Through this advanced clinical training, you'll learn how to confidently and compassionately |
| 0:42.7 | heal the impact of adverse childhood experiences, complex trauma, and CPDSD. |
| 0:48.4 | You'll gain specialized trauma-informed training that supports the resolution of attachment, |
| 0:53.0 | developmental, relational, cultural, and |
| 0:55.5 | intergenerational trauma. Join us and experience the integration of the neurobiologically informed |
| 1:01.3 | clinical approach that promotes post-traumatic growth, become part of a community where mindfulness |
| 1:06.5 | meets clinical expertise, and embody professional and personal growth with a catalyst for transformation |
| 1:12.0 | in your practice and community. Visit Complex Trauma Training Center.com to register for the |
| 1:18.0 | summer 2025 NARM Therapist Training. Enrollment is open to licensed psychotherapists, counselors, |
| 1:24.2 | social workers, and other licensed mental health professionals, as well as graduate |
| 1:27.8 | trainees and interns working toward licensure. |
| 1:33.7 | And now for our interview. Dr. Lawrence Heller is the creator of the neuroaffective |
| 1:39.1 | relational model, international trainer and co-author of healing developmentalal Trauma, How Early Trauma Effects |
| 1:45.8 | Self-Regulation, Self-image, and the Capacity for Relationship. He also co-authored |
| 1:50.9 | Crash Course, a self-healing guide to auto-accident trauma and recovery. Dr. Heller co-authored |
| 1:56.1 | the Practical Guide for Healing Developmental Trauma, using the neuro-effective relational model to address |
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