This is Artie's manager, Tommy. And I sat down and recorded this episode with Artie at his kitchen table so that we could put out where he's been lately and what he's been doing. And what ended coming of that conversation were some letters from fans that I read to Artie and that he responded to.

And it's the kind of thing that was good for him and that we think will be good for listeners and hopefully we'll do again in the future.

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Have you talked at all about being in jail?

Not really, no. It wasn't that bad of an experience. It was a time to get my head straight and stuff like that and get ready to go into whatever else wanted me to do rehab wise.

But you were in Gen Pop?

No, no, which is, you know, because I guess, you know, if you generate any sort of public attention, they don't do that.

But it's, you know, it's it's it's it's a it's protective custody is what they call it or you know, solitary.

Right. And how long? How long? I mean, it's not 24 seven, but you locked up 23 hours a day.

You get an hour out to maybe exercise a little bit, but I didn't, you know, I did like a month.

Okay. I've done a total of about two months, but you do a month, you know, 18 months ago in for lack of a better term solitary confinement, 24 hours a day.

Right. Right. Right. I imagine at the same time, nobody's feeding you medication. Nobody's feeding you drugs.

No, that was a big deal. That was I had to, you know, kick drugs on on the floor of the jail.

Well, you know, paint that picture for me. If I'm a fly on the wall and I'm looking in a already laying cell and solitary, what do I see?

You see me curled up in a ball in the corner, probably, and you know, really just out of my mind.

Yeah, I'll end the screaming. But the guards were cool to me. They, they, you know, he can be hydrated and, you know, it's, it's just a terrible, you, because you go through all the mental stuff too, not just the physical stuff.

Mental stuff comes back as well. Like what?

Well, you know, just regrets that you have and things that you wish you hadn't done because of drugs, you know, and, and how lucky you are that no one got really hurt physically.

I'm not really hurt physically in it and it didn't get any worse than it was, you know, there's not, there's not more to it than that. There's not a, you know, if I hadn't been pulled over, if I hadn't, you know, there's not, you know,

I could still keep, I don't imagine that your mindset changes in a moment when the, maybe it does when the door gets closed behind you, but where you go, you know, I, I still should have been able to keep living my life the way I wanted to live without people telling me what I can.

And then you head your head's clut, well cluttered with stuff at that point, you know, you don't know what to, you know, you want to make sure you get a glass of water first, and then, you know, get into it, you got to, you got to, you've wrecked yourself essentially, and you got to repair yourself somehow.

And there's a lot of people going through it, a lot of a lot of young people going through it that I see and a lot of them, you know, see what I've done in life, and they think it's cool, I think it's just like that.

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