Hello Superkins here, and I've teamed up once again with the LEGO Group to bring you series

two of my podcast at your leisure. Join me as I chat to chart toppers, catch up with comics

and yak with YouTube legends, finding out what they get up to when they're not busy being famous.

Expect more excellent guests, sharing more unusual hobbies.

So why not join us on the journey? Listen to the at your leisure podcast with me,

Superkins on Global Player. Hey, Amanda.

Jillian! Hi, girl. Jillian Pennsylvania.

Amanda, I guess, pen and up. That's it. I feel like we've known each other for like 20 years.

How does that work? You texted me about running around naked on my birthday because that's how I

came into this world. Yes, how he is. I feel like we're soul sisters from a past life.

Hi, Jillian here. And welcome to Let the Women Do the Work, the podcast where we look at true crime

from the perspectives of the women involved. Because in all these stories, there's a woman on the

sidelines, in the courtroom, at home, and in the streets holding together the threads of support

for a story they believe in. And in this episode, we're going to go all those places with someone

who is a fighter in the long, arduous journey for someone else's freedom. Amanda Villegas is a

wrongful conviction advocate based in El Paso, Texas. She's particularly focused on providing support

for the loved ones of the wrongfully convicted. She knows what it's like to be on that roller coaster

fighting from the outside for someone you love. And let me be clear, no one's really cut out for

that sort of thing. As a matter of fact, no one should ever even go through it. But if anyone's

up to the task, it's Amanda. You have to be a little crazy. You know, my family, when I told Emma,

I was dating somebody who had a life sentence, you know, their law enforcement. And

right. Yeah. They learn, they know me. So they know, like don't push up against Amanda,

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