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Uncanny Valley | WIRED

Let’s Talk About Texts

Uncanny Valley | WIRED

WIRED

Technology

4.1575 Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2020

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Maybe you aren't a political dissident engaging in top secret conversations over text messages. But if you care about privacy, you should probably be using Signal—or really, another encrypted service—to send your messages. Encryption can be a hot-button issue, with governments demanding backdoors into private data stores and executives at companies like Facebook having wildly different opinions about how secure your communications should be. Plus, at a time when we're relying more and more on digital services to talk with each other, it's important to know who has access to your conversations.

This week on Gadget Lab, WIRED digital director Brian Barrett joins us to talk about the ins and outs of encryption, and why you'd want to use a secure messaging service in the first place.

Show Notes: 

Read Brian’s tips for using Signal here.

Recommendations: 

Brian recommends the show Detroiters. Lauren recommends the show Selling Sunset and the video where WIRED’s Nick Thompson, Pia Ceres and Adrienne So talk about the digital divide in education. Mike recommends using Signal’s built-in tool for blurring people’s faces whenever you want to share a sensitive photo.

Brian Barrett can be found on Twitter @brbarrett. Lauren Goode is @LaurenGoode. Michael Calore is @snackfight. Bling the main hotline at @GadgetLab. The show is produced by Boone Ashworth (@booneashworth). Our executive producer is Alex Kapelman (@alexkapelman). Our theme music is by Solar Keys.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Mike.

0:00.7

Lauren.

0:01.6

Mike, what's your favorite text messaging app?

0:04.3

Oh, it's Allo. I spend all of my time in Allo.

0:07.6

Remind me again what Allo is.

0:09.9

I'm just kidding. It's the one that comes on Android phone. Nobody uses it. I use Signal primarily.

0:16.6

Okay. And that's encrypted, right?

0:18.6

It is. It's very encrypted.

0:20.8

Is that why you're using it?

0:22.7

Yes, it is the primary reason why I use it.

0:25.5

And that's exactly what we're going to talk about today.

0:34.8

Hi, everyone. Welcome to Gadget Lab. I'm Lauren Good. I'm a senior writer at Wired, and I'm joined

0:40.0

remotely by my co-host, Wired Senior Editor Michael Colore.

0:43.8

Hello, hello.

0:45.5

Is that, are you saying Allo again?

0:49.4

All right. We're also joined this week by Wired's digital director, Brian Barrett. Brian, thanks for coming back on the show.

0:56.1

Hello, everybody. Thanks for having me. Oh, my goodness, you guys. Okay, let's talk about text or specifically

1:03.4

encrypted messaging. Brian here wrote a guide this week on Wired.com, and it was a guide to using the app

1:09.2

signal, which many of you have probably heard of,

1:11.7

and we're going to get into why we think Signal is an app that you should consider using

1:16.2

for your digital communications. And then later in the show, we'll talk about some of the debates

1:20.9

and the controversy around encryption. But first, let's talk about how and when you should be using

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