Naomi Klein is an award-winning journalist and New York Times best-selling author.

She is senior correspondent for The Intercept, a puffing writing fellow at Tight Media Center,

and is the inaugural glorious Stein Steinem, endowed chair

in media, culture, and feminist studies at Rutgers University.

Who Naomi Klein has it going on, baby.

We haven't seen each other in a long while.

We haven't been face to face since the campaign and then all hell has broken loose.

Since Texas, I think.

Since, yeah, that was it, yep.

And all hell has broken loose, depending on, or heaven, depending on how you want to look at. I think people will say hell since March and a lot of people have been holding in place. So I just want to check on you. What are you focusing in on now? What are you thinking about what's going on?

Yeah. Well, first of all, it's so good to hear your voice

nina and to reconnect and i'm really glad you're doing the podcast to keep some of the conversations

going that we began uh on the campaign trail and i also really i feel like people who were

deep in the Sanders campaign and

nobody was in deeper than you and the senator. I think there's a, there's a unique kind of

whiplash that these past few months have felt like because it was such a high and then just such a crash, you know.

I remember there was some sort of like challenge going on on social media a few months ago

where they were asking people to share like the most recent like photographs from when things were normal pre-COVID and all of my

photographs were from the campaign and yeah I feel like the high point like for me the real

high point was being in Las Vegas on the day of

the victory and just like what that felt like. And then just everything after that moment, just

getting worse and worse and worse. But at the same time, I think the racial justice uprisings,

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