LET’S BE REASONABLE: Sam Harris and Rufus in Conversation
The Next Big Idea
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🗓️ 25 September 2020
⏱️ 63 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | From Wundery, I'm Rufus Kiskum, and this is a special bonus episode of the next big idea. I grew up in a religious |
| 0:16.3 | household. I remember when I was seven or eight years old holding hands with my |
| 0:20.5 | father and brother and sister during what my dad called Bible stories, |
| 0:25.0 | basically religious ceremonies that he would conduct in our living room, |
| 0:28.0 | and feeling what I thought was the force of God, |
| 0:31.0 | a kind of fluttering electricity flowing through my hands, wrists, arms, and |
| 0:36.9 | torso. |
| 0:38.2 | By age 11, as I was preparing for a church confirmation process, I decided that my religious education |
| 0:44.2 | didn't square with my emerging understanding of science. What did make sense |
| 0:49.0 | increasingly was that we were the accidental byproduct of a swirling of fluvium of energy and matter |
| 0:54.7 | that was unfathomable in its breadth and beauty. |
| 0:58.1 | Well, I'm not sure those were my words at the time, but that was the general idea. |
| 1:02.4 | At 12, I called myself an agnostic, and at 13 |
| 1:06.5 | an atheist. But there was a sense of loss there. I felt a loss of ritual and a loss of |
| 1:11.7 | certainty, |
| 1:12.8 | both certainty about where the world came from |
| 1:15.3 | and where we could find a foundation for a moral code of some kind. |
| 1:19.6 | I think I've been looking for the shared conviction, |
| 1:22.3 | the passion, the community of religious belief |
| 1:25.4 | without the religion part ever since. |
| 1:29.4 | A few years ago I discovered an unconventional thinker, a neuroscientist, |
| 1:33.4 | meditation guru philosopher, and unabashed atheists |
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