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Alright, welcome back to gun talk time version here, our number is 866 talk gun.

If you listen for any length of time, you know I've said this many times, set it on

our TV shows, everything you know about gun fighting is wrong unless you have real training.

Why do I say that?

Because everything you know about it comes from TV and movies.

I mean nature abhors a vacuum if you don't know anything it will get filled with something

and what you fill it with is everything from Kojak to Charlie's Angels to you know whatever

and it's all junk, it's all horrible and we see it all the time.

We do all this force on force training, we've been doing sure about that for years and years

and people just do all the stupid TV stuff in these scenarios.

Well how do you get around that?

We're training and learning about it and studying about it and now it's a real pleasure

to bring in somebody who has spent really a lifetime doing this, Ryan McKenna's retired

police lieutenant long time police trainer been writing about police gun fights and what

we can learn from those for many many years.

Brian thank you for being here, welcome.

Ladies all mine, thanks for having me.

You bet, so I got to tell you, I started reading your book Cops Under Fire 12 gripping stories

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