Lessons from a Lifelong Patient Turned Oncologist (with Dr. Eric Winer)

The Doctor's Art

Henry Bair and Tyler Johnson

Medicine, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Philosophy

5 • 2.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2022

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Born with hemophilia in a time before effective therapies existed and having experienced treatment complications including hepatitis C and HIV, Dr. Eric Winer spent much of his childhood and young adulthood in and out of the hospital. Today, he is the Director of Yale Cancer Center and President of the American Society of Clinical Oncology (ASCO), the largest organization of clinicians caring for cancer patients. An internationally renowned expert in breast cancer, his research has immensely impacted how breast cancer is now treated. In this episode, Dr. Winer shares his path to oncology and his insights from being a lifelong patient on stigma, compassion, and empathy.

In this episode, you will hear about:

How growing up with hemophilia led Dr. Winer to the field of medicine - 1:50
The patient that cemented Dr. Winer’s dedication to oncology as his life’s work - 7:55
Dr. Winer’s reflections on how his experiences as a patient shape his work as a doctor - 12:52
Facing the reality of caring for patients with terminal illness - 18:21
How Dr. Winer grounds the care he provides in the humanism of each patient - 23:49
Dr. Winer’s mission and vision as president of the American Society of Clinical Oncology - 25:49
How leading by example is critical to cultivating a strong, respectful, and collaborative institutional culture - 31:02
Dr. Winer’s advice to medical students and new clinicians on maintaining a connection to meaningful work - 33:12

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Henry Bear.
0:03.4	And I'm Tyler Johnson.
0:04.8	And you're listening to the Doctors' Art, a podcast that explores meaning in medicine.
0:09.9	Throughout our medical training and career, we have pondered, what makes medicine meaningful?
0:15.2	Can a stronger understanding of this meaning create better doctors?
0:18.8	How can we build healthcare institutions that nurture the doctor-patient connection?
0:23.1	What can we learn about the human condition from accompanying our patients in times of suffering?
0:28.0	In seeking answers to these questions, we meet with deep thinkers working across healthcare,
0:33.1	from doctors and nurses to patients and healthcare executives, those who have collected a career's worth of harder and wisdom.
0:40.2	Proving the moral heart that beats at the core of medicine, we will hear stories that are by turns heartbreaking,
0:45.6	amusing, inspiring, challenging, and enlightening.
0:49.3	We welcome anyone curious about why doctors do what they do.
0:52.9	Join us as we think out loud about what illness and healing can teach us about some of life's biggest questions.
1:01.4	We are fortunate to be joined by Dr. Eric Winer, who is the director of Yale Cancer Center,
1:08.9	and current president of the American Society of Clinical Oncology, the largest organization representing clinicians who care for cancer patients.
1:16.6	Dr. Winer is an internationally renowned expert in breast cancer, and his research has profoundly impacted
1:22.1	how we treat breast cancer today.
1:24.2	In this episode, we discuss his path to oncology and how he approaches his patients with tremendous compassion and empathy,
1:31.2	shaped by his own experiences as a lifelong patient with hemophilia.
1:35.7	Dr. Winer, welcome to the show, and thanks for being here.
1:39.2	Thanks, pleasure to be here.
1:41.0	Dr. Winer, you have led such a remarkable career, having developed some of the most important drugs for treating breast cancer in use today,
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