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Hello and welcome to Little Goldman, Vanity Fair's podcast for film, TV, and awards lovers.

I'm Rebecca Ford.

And I'm John Ross.

Hi, John. How you doing?

I'm good. I'm here. I've survived a weekend of many, many photo shoots for upcoming Hollywood issue, which is going to be spectacular.

And the theme for me and this Hollywood issue is the theme for this podcast as well, which is

one battle after another.

I'm really excited we're going to get to use this phrase in so many ways for the next several months of award season because it really works for our lives right now in so many ways.

Yes, we are one battle after another, but we both got to see the movie and we're going to do a deep dive on it today for the podcast.

Yeah, you know, Paul Thomas Anderson's film, I think we weren't before we had seen it.

Sure, if this was going to be a real awards contender because it didn't premiere at a festival,

though we know Paul Thomas Anderson infamously hates them.

But now that we've seen it and it opens nationwide tomorrow, I think there's a lot to

discuss about it being a huge awards contender, and especially for its star, Leonardo DiCaprio.

But given his sort of complicated history with Oscars and how incredibly competitive it's going

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