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NFL: Good Morning Football

Leonard Williams talks Facing Philip Rivers this Sunday, Seahawks Hunt for NFC #1 Seed, Pros & Cons of a Hybrid D-lineman, His Anime Fandom

NFL: Good Morning Football

iHeartPodcasts and NFL

Sports, Football

4.3655 Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

On the latest Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast, Cam welcomes Seahawks Pro Bowl defensive tackle Leonard Williams for a wide-ranging, funny, and surprisingly nerdy conversation that goes from playoffs to Pro Bowls to Pokémon.

Leonard breaks down why this Seahawks squad is the best team he’s ever been on. He and Cam also chop it up about Seattle’s push for the top playoff seed in the NFC, the importance of a first-round bye, and how different it feels playing meaningful December football after years on teams that didn’t win.

He opens up about how joining Seattle changed his career trajectory, what it’s like playing for head coach Mike McDonald, and the life of a hybrid defensive lineman.

From Philip Rivers NFL return to USC football to anime debates to becoming a father, this conversation is a blend of football IQ, storytelling, laughs, and real insight into one of the league’s most versatile trench players.

The Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast is a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeart Media.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:08.7

All right, y'all.

0:09.6

Hey, you know what time of the end.

0:10.6

It's me.

0:11.5

It's Cam Jordan.

0:12.4

It's off the edge.

0:14.6

The podcast with me, your host, Cam Jordan.

0:16.9

I'm super excited to bring in one of my big dogs.

0:20.1

Actually, he's a big cat. But we'll get into more of that because he's a first round pick. Top, top 10 at number like, what, like six or something like that, man? It's been to Pro Bowls. You know, this man is over 50 sacks. I think he's sitting like 60 change. You know, if I'm late, I'm wrong, and I'm wrong. I'm sorry, I'm late. But I think this guy has a ton of potential. He shows a year, year out, formerly of the big, you know, of the PAC 10. Now they're in the big something or other. They left, you know, went to USC. So they left Cal behind. Now we're at ACC, whatever that is. It's my dog, Big Cat Leonard Williams, aka Leo. Leo, what's up, baby? What up, man? Thank you for having me. Yeah, absolutely, bro. Just over the years, a lot of respect for your game. I met you when you was a young cub and now you big Leo the Lion type shit. Yeah, it's been a long time, man. Been a long time. It's time for this week's drive for success. Conversation presented by Toyota. Let's go places. Before I even get into football, I just want to start off like, how did you get into cards, trading cards? You know, was a Cassius Marsh? The only other football player that I know that has a big,

1:28.4

big trading card collection is that guy. Yeah, he was a big part of it, actually. But I was collecting

1:33.0

Pokemon cards when I was young. My cousin was in my Pokemon tournaments. He was, like, playing

1:39.9

competitively. But at the time when I was young, I was just into like the shiny cards.

1:44.4

I was collecting them, keeping them in my binders and stuff like that. And then around COVID time,

1:49.4

I found out, you know, how expensive light, a shiny Charzar was going for. And then I went

1:55.7

back home. Yeah, it was crazy. First edition, you know, Shiny Charzar was going for a lot.

2:01.5

And then I went home and found some of my old binders.

2:04.9

I didn't have much in there, you know, but I still had like a few things that were worth some stuff.

2:08.6

And it kind of got me back into collecting.

2:10.9

And once my little brother found out that I was collecting Pokemon cards, he introduced me to Magic the Gathering.

2:17.9

And then that's when I got really big into cards because magic, you know,

2:22.0

it came from collecting to playing.

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