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The Tikvah Podcast

Leon Kass on Reading Exodus and the Formation of the People of Israel

The Tikvah Podcast

Tikvah

Judaism, Politics, Religion & Spirituality, News

4.6620 Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2020

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

The biblical book of Exodus “not only recounts the founding of the Israelite nation, one of the world’s oldest and most consequential peoples...but also sheds light on enduring questions about nation building and peoplehood.” So writes Dr. Leon Kass in the introduction to his scintillating, profound, and meticulously close reading of Exodus, Founding God’s Nation, forthcoming from Yale University Press in January 2021. In this remarkable commentary, Kass masterfully draws out, line by line and chapter by chapter, the enduring moral, philosophical, and political significance of this most important biblical book.

In April 2020, just ahead of Passover, Mosaic published an excerpt from Dr. Kass’s book, as “The People-Forming Passover.” The essay focuses on the events of the night before and the morning of the Israelites’ departure from Egypt—events rehearsed each year at the Passover table—and on their significance in the formation of the Jewish nation. In this week’s podcast, Kass sits down with Mosaic’s editor Jonathan Silver to explore and elucidate his essay.

Musical selections in this podcast are drawn from the Quintet for Clarinet and Strings, op. 31a, composed by Paul Ben-Haim and performed by the ARC Ensemble as well as “Ulterior” by Swan Production.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Have you ever played a musical instrument, or have you recently had to harangue a child to practice theirs?

0:13.2

If the difficult early efforts to produce harmony and rhythm on a musical instrument are part of your experience,

0:20.5

then it will be a little easier

0:21.8

for you to understand the big idea that Leon Cass is wrestling with in the essay that we're discussing

0:27.2

today. His essay is not about music, of course. It's about the prerequisites of freedom,

0:34.3

the capacities of character and will that women and men need in order to enjoy freedom

0:39.4

without descending into disorder. Welcome to the Tikva podcast. I'm your host, Jonathan Silver.

0:46.2

My guest today, Dr. Leon Kass, has those capacities of character in mind when he interprets

0:52.3

the biblical text that describes the preparations the

0:55.6

Israelites must undertake before their exodus from Egypt. And that's where music comes in.

1:02.1

The Catholic theologian George Weigel once wrote that anyone can bang away on a piano,

1:07.6

but that is to make noise, not music, and it's a barbaric, not humanistic

1:13.5

expression of freedom. At first, learning to play the piano is a matter of some drudgery,

1:19.4

as we master exercises that seem like a constraint, a burden. But as our mastery grows, we discover

1:26.2

a new, richer dimension of freedom.

1:28.7

We can play the music we like.

1:30.5

We can even create new music on our own.

1:33.1

Freedom, in other words, is a matter of gradually acquiring the capacity to choose the good

1:38.7

and to do what we choose with perfection.

1:43.0

In the rituals and constraints that would in the course of

1:46.2

Jewish tradition eventually become law, Cass hears something much like the musical scales of a novice.

1:52.9

Still in articulate, a novice who does not yet have the ability to produce coherent musical

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