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The Tikvah Podcast

Leon Kass on How Exodus Created the Jewish National Narrative

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Judaism, Politics, Religion & Spirituality, News

4.6620 Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

This week the Jewish people is not just celebrating, but reenacting the Exodus from Egypt that our ancestors undertook many generations ago. The complex, ritualized retelling of this story can be found in the Haggadah, the text that structures the Passover’s ceremonial meal, or seder. But of course the defining telling of this story is to be found in the book of Exodus itself.

In 2021, the great Jewish thinker Leon Kass published a searching, capacious commentary on that book called Founding God’s Nation: Reading Exodus. Not long after, he sat down with Mosaic’s editor Jonathan Silver to record a video course based on his commentary, consisting of eight, roughly hour-long episodes. This week, we’re bringing you the audio version of episode two, focusing on the national narrative created in the text. The episode addresses the character of Moses, the nature of Egyptian society, the purpose of the plagues, and the essence of awe and reverence, all against the backdrop of the Exodus’s three defining components: the promulgation of a national story, a law to structure society, and an elevated national aspiration that provides the Jewish people with a mission.

You can watch the entire video course, free of charge, by enrolling here, and you also explore our other courses as well.

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This week the Jewish people is not just celebrating, but reenacting the exodus from Egypt

0:12.3

that our ancestors undertook many generations ago. The highly curated, ritualized retelling of this

0:19.1

story can be found in the Hagada, the compiled text that

0:23.3

structures the Pesach holidays, ceremonial meal, and its satyr. But of course, the defining telling of

0:29.6

this story is to be found in the book of Exodus itself. Welcome to the Tikva podcast. I'm your host,

0:35.9

Jonathan Silver. In 2021, the great Leon Kass

0:39.9

published a searching, capacious commentary on the book called Founding God's Nation, Reading Exodus.

0:47.4

Not long after that, I had the honor of sitting down to record an entire video course with him,

0:53.4

consisting of eight roughly hour-long

0:55.6

episodes. Each one focuses on a different dimension of his commentary, and this week we're bringing

1:01.7

you the audio version of episode two, focusing on the national narrative created in the text.

1:08.2

We discuss the character of Moses, the nature of Egypt, the purpose of the

1:13.4

plagues, and the essence of awe and reverence, all against the backdrop of the Exodus's

1:19.5

three defining aspects, the promulgation of a national story, a law to structure society,

1:26.0

and an elevated national aspiration that provides the people

1:30.1

with a mission. If you like this conversation, I invite you to enroll absolutely free of cost

1:36.5

in Leon Cass' entire video course at courses.tikva.org. That's courses.tikva.org. There you will find other free, full-length,

1:48.3

online courses on everything from Theodore Herzl to the New York intellectuals to medieval

1:53.8

Jewish history. Scroll down to the Hebrew Bible section of the page, and there, along with

1:59.1

studies of the artistic legacy of the Hebrew Bible

2:01.9

with Jacob Weiss and the Book of Job with Mika Goodman, you will find founding God's

2:07.4

nation reading Exodus, and its wonderful instructor, Leon Cass. You can subscribe to the

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