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Lena Waithe on And Just Like That

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Society & Culture

3.3697 Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Kristin and Lena Waithe discuss And Just Like That -- the highs, the lows, and why it's worth watching! 

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.0

Guaranteed Human.

0:06.0

Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte?

0:13.0

Hi, everybody, welcome back to Are You a Charlotte?

0:15.0

We are here with a little bonus episode where Lena and I discuss and just like that.

0:21.7

Please enjoy.

0:23.2

We were talking about women of color being on the show.

0:26.1

What I loved about Jennifer Lewis is seeing Jennifer Lewis's character and Nicole

0:29.7

Ari Parker's character in the same frame.

0:32.2

So beautiful.

0:33.3

It's not just about them being two black women, but it was more about them being two very

0:39.3

specific black women. So specific. And so different. And obviously, you know, generational differences

0:45.6

and obviously there's humor and dealing with death. And I just thought it was so beautifully done.

0:52.9

I communicated that to Susan and to Jennifer as well. And I think that is the evolution of the show as well. And it's not just about, oh, let's put a black woman at the table, a Middle Eastern woman at the table. But it's really more about, well, who are they? Right. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I don't, okay, she's black, great, what else? Right. And I think that's where you get Susan Fields Hill being very culturally specific and like, like, you know, kind of infusing some things that maybe she can relate to into the character. And Nicole Ari Parker is fantastic. I've been a fan of hers for a long time. Yes. And so I think that that's to me is what happens. It's like shows grow and they shift and they change.

1:31.2

But also I think that that's to me

1:28.0

is what happens. It's like shows grow and they shift and they change. But also we live in a very youth leading society as well. Yes. Yes. So when you're watching women who have a certain age, who are living certain lives, there is a level of people or maybe people who are those characters ages feel feel like, well, I don't live that way

1:44.3

or that's not my experience. But I always, I say I try to get away from this idea of, oh, I want to see myself because I can see myself in the lead character in Baby Rangere, and he's a white straight dude who is like, you know, in London is a struggle comedian. And even though I don't, I don't have anything in common with him in that way. I can relate to his desire to be desired and his desire to be left alone. Sure. And so, and I think to me, it's about what is the human connection that is happening with us in the character? That's what I was like, I don't need a person to be black and queer and female like me for me to relate to them.

2:18.1

Right.

2:18.4

I want to know, what is it, are they struggling with?

2:20.4

What are they going through?

2:21.4

What are they facing in this moment? And that's the joy of what we do. Exactly. You might relate to someone who has nothing similar to you. Exactly. That's the whole point. It's like it's about empathy. it's about seeing your humanity as someone

2:31.9

that looks nothing like you.

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