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The Don Lemon Show

LEMON DROP | RFK Jr.'s Vaccine Policies Are DEADLY!

The Don Lemon Show

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Society & Culture, News

4.31.2K Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Don sits down with Anna Merlan and Kiera Butler of Mother Jones for a deep dive into the dangerous world of RFK Jr. and the anti-vaccine movement he’s helped supercharge. From wild conspiracy theories to outright misinformation, the so-called “MAHA” movement (Make America Healthy Again) has weaponized fear and pseudoscience, casting doubt on life-saving vaccines and public health efforts. Anna and Kiera have been on the front lines of reporting this disinformation campaign, and they’re here to break it all down. This is a conversation about science, truth, and the real cost of conspiracy. This episode is brought to you by Mint Mobile. Get this new customer offer and your 3-month Unlimited wireless plan for just 15 bucks a month at https://MINTMOBILE.com/DONLEMON. This episode is sponsored by DeleteMe. Get 20% off your DeleteMe plan when you text DON to 64000. Message and data rates apply. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:45.6

Over the last several weeks, the media has been hyper-focused on Epstein Files and the Trump administration, perhaps looming pardon of Gilae Maxwell and other stories.

0:55.0

But there's a really big story that we need to discuss. There are other things, terrible things happening right now that are really flying under the radar.

1:02.0

One of those is the destruction of science in America. RFK juniors, co-conspirators are gutting America scientific community and the ramifications will

1:11.1

really be felt for a long long time will be felt for decades I believe so here with me today

1:17.0

the authors of a fantastic and I have to admit frightening piece it's in mother Jones in its title

1:22.7

the plot against vaccines and it's Kira Butler's here and Anna Merlin. Thank you both for joining.

1:28.7

Thanks for having us. Thank you. Kira is a national correspondent at Mother Jones and Anna is a senior

1:34.7

reporter at Mother Jones. So you can, you ladies aside who you want to take this one, but I'd like

1:41.3

to start with the person you discuss at the top of your piece. And that is, I guess it was sort of the, I don't know, was it sort of the test case or the case that kicked this all off? And that's the, and that's Yates Hazelhurst. Am I correct with that? Yeah, it was one of the test cases. So the top of our piece talks about a little boy named Yates Hazlehurst, who in 2003, his family filed a lawsuit

2:03.2

with what's called the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, basically alleging that

2:09.6

when Yates was a toddler and received an MMR vaccine, it had caused him to develop autism.

2:15.5

And if this sounds familiar, it's because it's a claim

2:18.5

that folks have made for years.

2:19.9

It's been pretty conclusively at this point disproven

2:23.3

that vaccines can cause autism,

2:24.7

but the Hazelhurst family and other families

2:27.1

sued through this federal program alleging

2:30.4

that that is what happened.

2:32.6

And it kicked off in the case of the Hazelhurst family litigation that has lasted for

2:38.0

about 22 years at this point and counting.

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