Legal Writing and AI (Ross Guberman) (Ep. 416)
Thinking LSAT
Nathan Fox and Ben Olson
4.8 • 868 Ratings
🗓️ 21 August 2023
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Summary
Ross Guberman is one of the world’s top legal writing experts. He’s the author of Point Made: How to Write Like the Nation’s Top Advocates, and Point Taken: How to Write Like the World’s Greatest Judges. His newest project, BriefCatch, is an AI-powered legal writing tool that offers real-time editing suggestions on legal documents. Ross joins Ben and Nathan to discuss law school, legal writing, and the evolving role of AI in the legal profession.
0:45 - August LSAT - Ben and Nathan address the technical difficulties that arose during the August LSAT. They encourage test takers to embrace such challenges rather than crumple under the stress.
9:33 - LSAT Demon Discounts - LSAC fee waiver recipients can get four months of LSAT Demon Basic for only $38, or 20% off any paid plan. Visit lsatdemon.com/plans or email [email protected] to learn more.
13:07 - LSAT Demon Discord - LSAT Demon subscribers can join the LSAT Demon Discord to connect with teachers and fellow students.
13:31 - Updates to LSAT Writing - LSAT Writing no longer allows the use of physical scratch paper. Test takers will instead have “digital scratch paper” available in the testing interface. Read more about LSAT Writing’s requirements and prohibited items here.
16:49 - Introducing Ross Guberman - Legal writing expert Ross Guberman reflects on his career as a lawyer and legal writing consultant.
30:21 - The Value of Law School - Ross, Nathan, and Ben criticize law schools for inadequately preparing students to pass the bar and find legal work.
46:22 - Great Legal Writing - Ross describes how his experience conducting writing workshops for judges and lawyers led to the creation of BriefCatch, an AI-powered tool that aims to standardize legal writing.
59:59 - ChatGPT - Ross and Ben discuss how lawyers are currently using AI tools like ChatGPT and what sort of legal work such tools could automate in the future.
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and |
| 0:05.0 | welcome to episode 416 of the Thinking Elsap Podcast. |
| 0:11.0 | I'm Ben Olson. |
| 0:12.0 | With me is Nathan Fox, where the co-founder of Elsat podcast. I'm Ben Olson. With me is Nathan Fox. |
| 0:13.6 | We're the co-founders of Elsat Demon.com |
| 0:15.4 | and the Elsad Demon Daily Podcast. |
| 0:17.6 | If you want to be Elsat famous, you can share news and ask questions |
| 0:20.8 | on our website thinking Elsat.com. This is going to air on Monday |
| 0:25.5 | August 21st. I guess you have a free class coming up Nathan on Thursday September |
| 0:29.5 | 14th. Do you want to say anything about that? Yeah, I'm excited. |
| 0:34.0 | It's just a free version of my normal Thursday class, |
| 0:38.0 | so hope everybody can join. |
| 0:39.0 | Okay, cool, you can sign up for that at Elsad. |
| 0:42.0 | Link forward slash free. |
| 0:45.0 | Producer Eric has kindly put some PSAs on the top of the podcast agenda today. |
| 0:50.0 | Let's go ahead and jump into these. Number one, I'll go ahead and read this. |
| 0:55.0 | One, we got a lot of listener emails about the remote procturing issues for the August |
| 1:00.6 | L-SAT. |
| 1:06.5 | Sounds like there were problems, right? El-Sack and Pro Metric had offered to make up test days |
| 1:11.0 | for these problems, and I guess those are going to happen on August 20th and 21st or 19th and 20th. |
| 1:19.0 | Anyways, I don't know what else there is to say about that except that people were upset. |
| 1:23.8 | People were upset. |
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