Hello and welcome to Prophecy Watchers. I'm Gary Stearman and with me is a wonderful guest and author

and his name is Lee Brainerd. Lee, welcome to Prophecy Watchers.

Gary, it's a pleasure to be on the program. I enjoy all of my visits here.

Now we have a few minutes here to have a nice discussion about the rapture of the church. I'm sure

one of your favorite subjects, but Lee, we've had a discussion about this and you're telling

me that not everybody agrees about the pre-tribulation rapture. No, we're seeing a tremendous

amount of opposition to a pre-tribulation rapture in the last few decades.

We saw the appearance of the pre-rath rapture theory, which is a new theory, and which, oddly enough,

they accused the pre-trib rapture being a new theory.

Ah.

And then we have the resurgence of classic post-tribulationism.

And they're both death on a pre-trib rapture.

That's amazing because when you think back,

let's think back to the 80s.

And what we were all talking about in the 80s,

there was a surge.

And in fact, we've seen several such surges

of belief in the Pre-trip rapture.

People get really excited, look what's happening in the Middle East, look what's happening

in the economy and so forth so on.

And I think the rapture must be close, you know, and people are guessing the date of the rapture.

And a lot of people like to make fun of that and say, you people are crazy. There's no such

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