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Bess, I am John Batson with Malcolm Holine Conference of Presidents Major American Jewish Organizations.

We're very pleased to welcome our colleague

Hanim Gaddar, the Friedman Senior Fellow at the Washington Institute's

Linda and Tony Rubin program in Arab politics, writing most recently

about the targeted killing of a Hamas gangster named Al-Horuri

operating in Beirut and how this is a challenge not only for Hamas they've lost

one of their big bosses but also for Hezbollah it presents itself as the

protector of Beirut the protector of Lebanon the protector oh I don't know the solar

system honey you've written, this presents challenges.

How so are they the same challenge or different?

Good evening to you.

Good evening, to you too, John, and thank you very much for having me. This is definitely one of the most

challenging episodes for Hezbollah in Lebanon and for Hamas as well. I think let me just say that to describe the importance of

al-A-Rur for Hamas and for Hezbollah he is for Hamas the equivalent of

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