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Hello, I'm Ian Stone. This is Handbrake-off, the Arsenal podcast, brought to you by The Athletic.

This is our little midweek extra pod. For those of you, you just feel 45 minutes with me and the gang, it's just not quite enough Arsenal chat.

Today, we're going to hear a conversation Amy had with Matthew Flamony about his life before and after his football career.

And if you don't know what he's been up to since he stopped playing, well, the boy done pretty good.

Also, Amy talked to another boy who did pretty good, Ian Wright.

We'll also have a little reflection on Anfield at the weekend.

And later on, we'll be joined by Adrian Clark.

But I'm here with Amy Lawrence.

Hello, Amy.

Oh, yeah.

Hello.

One of the things Matthew Flamity said, by the way, some of my colleagues like to joke with me.

Finally, you have your first real job.

And Abby, our producer, suggested that as neither of us have a real job, she wanted to know what our first proper job was.

Amy, what was your first proper job?

It was part-time, but my first paid work involves a pay slip from Arsenal Football Club.

No.

I used to work part-time in the Gunner's Shop, which was the little building tacked on at the end of the clock end on Avanelle Road when that was the only way to purchase anything Arsenal-related.

And that was fun times, if a little bit surreal at times and I'll never forget one day working

in the summer holidays and George Graham he used to come he used to obviously the club was

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