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And I'll let you know a little bit more about them as the conversation progresses.

Today we have Optic Roger in the building building he didn't start out as optic Roger he was

T K Raj and then elevate Roger to elevate Rod so elevate and then when I went

full time was TK Raj and then left that and then after a couple months when I started working at infinite and then eventually after garage

Yeah, yeah your loyalty got to me you know what I mean?

Little by little.

He needs to be there.

I played my cards right.

You did, you did.

Anyway, thank you for joining me.

I wanted to have this conversation,

because a lot of people know you they just don't know your

background and I want to know your background because you didn't go to a

traditional film school or any of that right? Not at all. No I didn't even

pick up a camera until I was already in college. Like a year, two years into college?

Yeah. So yeah, I was two years in the community college and competing just wasn't working out and what do you mean computing so I competed for a long time and cod like trying trying to make it through you play

Call a duty and you were playing so you were going to advance I was doing game battles everything and it just it never worked out and are you good at call duty?

I was good at call it duty.

Matt gives me shit about it now.

Are you better than me?

Yes, I'm better than you.

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