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articles and early access to Colette social events. And this week I will be

turning it over to a new host who will be joining us periodically in coming months.

Newly recruited London-based Colette editor Iona Italia.

In this maiden Colette podcasting experience, Iona is going to be talking about white supremacy. And just to be clear, I'm talking

about real white supremacy, the kind espoused by racists who actually want to cleanse the United States

of non-white people. That's an important distinction to make because in recent years the meaning of the words white supremacy has been diluted by culture warriors who now sometimes use them to describe pretty much everything from Shakespeare to standardized tests to ice hockey. Aoyona will be talking to Henry Ramboo, that's R-A-M-B-O-W, a former missionary, a book author, and now the host of his own podcast called

Hate No More.

In that podcast, Ramboe tells the story of a man he calls Casper, a young American prisoner who becomes radicalized into white supremacy while serving time for homicide.

Behind bars he joins and then helps lead a group called State Prison Skinheads.

But over time Casper finds his way out of the white supremacist movement for reasons that Henry will explain to Iona during their discussion.

But first, here's a brief excerpt from episode 3 of Hate No More, in which Casper talks about

the moment he informed his father about what he'd been doing in prison.

I wasn't expecting a visit, you know, so when they told me I had a visit, I was like,

who the hell was here?

You know, and they're like, I I don't know you got a visit.

So I went down to the visit hall and I walk in and I didn't even recognize him.

He was in a wheelchair, weighed about 90 pounds,

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