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In this episode I speak to a real life top gun pilot Mike Manizio.

He speaks about his time as a pilot and his rise to the rank of rear admiral during a 34-year career in the military, during which he served time in the

Gulf complex and he commanded the famous USS Nimitz. Mike has a new book out,

learn how to lead to win.

The wallet includes details of its death-defying military career.

It also serves as a useful tool to help leaders in all walks of life to become more successful.

Hey Mike, thanks for joining me. So like many civilians, I learned about call signs and nicknames for pilots through the

top gun films where we had Tom Cruz's Maverick and Iceman and so on. But to start the interview I have to ask because I have learned that your

call sign was nasty which obviously can have several connotations.

So how did you end up with that nickname?

Call signs are funny, but they're funny because they're nicknames

and they're often viewed as a nickname.

But what really the reason for call signs is

communications brevity over the radio. Your Dan, I'm Mike, you know, we might have three Dan's in the flight or five

mics in the strike and if somebody comes from the radio and says,

hey, Mike, you don't know who you're talking to.

So there's a tactical reason for that.

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