All right awesome fierce marriage listeners. We have a treat for you today. We have Matt Hammett.

Yep. From the band Sanctus Reel, he wrote the song Lead Me.

Yes, so he's pretty famous.

He's kind of, yeah, he's done a lot of really kind of a big deal.

Kind of a big deal. Although he's not here to talk about music.

Yeah, he's here to talk about marriage because God used, honestly, he used Matt's success to kind of

get at his heart and help him reorder his priorities. And it's just, it was his story is one of

radical transformation, radical change. And not only that, he's a really great guy to talk to.

It was really nice. Super wise. Yeah. And I, it's, I mean, career is career, right?

It's you don't have to be a onstage singer or band son songwriter to experience God's

pull at your heart, right? And transformation in terms of like your identity. And I think we all

can get wrapped up in what we do and the roles that we have. And that can lead us away from,

you know, the heart of God in a lot of ways. And so this is, he's super articulate,

a great podcast episode. So yeah, we can forward to sharing it with you.

Yeah. So if any of that kind of hits a source spot for you,

make sure you listen to this one. You're bound to learn something that's bound to bless you.

So here we go. Matt Hammett.

All right, ladies and gentlemen, today we have Matt Hammett with us on the podcast. Matt,

how you doing? Hey, doing great. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, man. Thanks so much for joining us.

You came very highly regarded. I know. So a lot of our listeners probably know of your past work

in a band and what band were you a part of? Yeah. So I was in a band called Sanctus Real

for 20 years, which is so crazy. We spent 15 of those years with spare records. Wow. And I feel like

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