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The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Lawrence on Hegseth boat strike: 'There was no war and there was no fog'

The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Lawrence O'Donnell, MS NOW

Policy, Ms Now, Versant Media, Versant, Msnbc, Politics, President, Washington, Congress, Government, Senate, News

4.45.9K Ratings

🗓️ 5 December 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Tonight on The Last Word: After a classified briefing on the Sept. 2 boat strikes on an alleged Venezuelan drug boat, Democratic Sen. Mark Warner says he believes the survivors of the first strike were “incapacitated.” And Donald Trump’s tariffs are negatively impacting U.S. businesses. Sen. Mark Warner, Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling, and Rep. Brendan Boyle join Lawrence O’Donnell.

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0:00.0

The last word with Lawrence O'Donnell starts right now.

0:03.8

Hey, Lawrence.

0:05.0

Hey, Jen.

0:05.4

I usually watch Colbert.

0:07.3

I actually record it so I can watch it whenever I want.

0:11.0

But I'm watching it live tonight.

0:12.4

I'm going to rush home so I can watch it in the first broadcast.

0:17.6

And Weirdell Yankevich is on after me.

0:19.6

So you can stand for that too.

0:21.7

All right. Can't wait. Sounds like a great show. It will be. It was a good one.

0:27.7

Thanks, Jen. Thanks, Lawrence. Thank you. First, they lie. That's what has happened in the American

0:37.1

military after every war crime committed by the American military. First, they lie. Somewhere in the chain of command, they lie. That is what Donald Trump's incompetent defense secretary Pete Hegseth did when first confronted with the Washington Post breaking news report

0:57.2

of a second missile strike on a small boat that had already been destroyed and burst into flames

1:02.8

after the first missile strike. The Washington Post reported that the second missile strike

1:07.8

killed two people clinging to the wreckage, which would be a war crime and a war and is murder outside of war.

1:14.4

There is no war in the Caribbean. There is no fog of war there. So Pete Haxeth lied and said that everything in the Washington Post article was, quote, the fake news delivering

1:29.4

more fabricated, inflammatory, and derogatory reporting. That was Pete Hegsett's first lie about

1:36.4

this story as soon as it came out. Pete Hegseth himself has already turned himself in for lying about that, for telling that lie, since he has

1:47.0

changed his story multiple times, since he told that lie on Sunday. In Vietnam, the worst

1:55.5

American military war crime of the 20th century was called a resounding success. Those are the words, resounding success

2:02.8

in the first after-action report of what came to be known as the Milai Massacre, in which American

2:10.7

soldiers commanded by Lieutenant William Cali summarily executed 347 people. And first, they lied. But 18 months later, Lieutenant Callie was

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