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The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Lawrence on deranged, vile Trump posts as govt. shutdown looms: How do you negotiate with that man?

The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

Lawrence O'Donnell, MS NOW

Policy, Ms Now, Versant Media, Versant, Msnbc, Politics, President, Washington, Congress, Government, Senate, News

4.45.9K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Tonight on The Last Word: Donald Trump posts a racist fake video after a White House meeting with Democrats. Also, Senate Democrats press the Justice Department to release files on the border czar Tom Homan bribery investigation. Plus, The Wall Street Journal reports on new details about the Ghislaine Maxwell prison transfer after her Justice Department interview. And Oversight Democrats release a third batch of Epstein documents. Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, and Rep. Ro Khanna join Lawrence O’Donnell.

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0:00.0

Well, if you wanted to see the spot where the very first president of the United States was inaugurated,

0:06.9

you have to travel a couple hundred miles north of Washington, D.C.

0:11.8

George Washington actually took his first oath of office as president in lower Manhattan on Wall Street

0:17.6

in a spot that is now commemorated for that historic moment.

0:23.2

For what turned out to be a brief shining moment, New York City was the first capital of the United States of America for a little over a year.

0:32.9

George Washington lived then, not in the big White House, but in a New York City rental like so many

0:39.4

millions of us have since that time. New York City in those days was in every important sense,

0:46.2

the center of the United States of America. And for a brief shining moment today, New York City

0:51.0

was, in a sense, the center of our political world once again.

0:57.6

Two guys from Brooklyn and a guy from Queens walking in a room to discuss the immediate future

1:04.6

of the government of the United States of America. It's all up to them. If those three New Yorkers reach an agreement, the government

1:13.6

continues its normal operations. If they don't, the government shuts down. They didn't reach

1:19.4

an agreement today. And so we are now 26 hours away from Donald Trump's next shutdown of the

1:26.2

American government. The last time the government shut down was the last time Donald Trump was president.

1:31.6

One of the guys from Brooklyn reminded the guy from Queens

1:34.6

that there were no government shutdowns when Joe Biden and the Democrats were in charge.

1:42.0

When I was leader, we negotiated four times with Republicans, and we never had a shutdown.

1:50.8

And so it's up to the Republicans whether they want to shut down or not.

1:55.0

The two guys from Brooklyn tried to explain to the guy from Queens that he was hurting people

2:00.6

who cannot afford dramatic

2:02.3

increases in their health insurance costs. But trying to explain that to the guy from Queens

2:07.9

isn't easy because he doesn't know those people who struggle with the cost of health care.

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