Lawrence: 'Irreversibly stupid' Trump's biggest tariff 'humiliation day' has yet to come

The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell

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🗓️ 30 May 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Tonight on The Last Word: A second federal court rules Donald Trump’s tariffs are illegal. Also, a federal judge blocks Trump’s ban on Harvard University’s foreign students. And Elon Musk officially leaves the White House. Rick Woldenberg, Laurence Tribe, and Rep. Melanie Stansbury join Lawrence O’Donnell.

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0:00.0	The last word with Lawrence O'Donnell starts right now.
0:03.0	Hey, Lawrence.
0:04.3	Hey, Jen.
0:05.1	You know, I've become a very reluctant predictor in the age of Donald Trump, but I don't believe
0:13.4	that he is ever going to get personal ownership of that plan.
0:18.5	If it does get transferred to the government, I don't believe this government
0:25.0	is then going to transfer it to him for his personal use at the end. I'm not, I don't think he's
0:31.2	going to be able to make that part of the deal stick. But, you know, we're going to have to be,
0:35.3	we have to be patient to find out.
0:40.9	I'm not going to take the other end of that bet, Lawrence.
0:43.2	Maybe somebody watching will, but I'm with you.
0:43.9	Okay.
0:44.6	Right.
0:45.5	We will see.
0:46.4	Thanks, Jen.
0:46.9	Thank you.
0:47.6	Thanks, Lawrence.
0:56.3	Well, Donald Trump said today that he will issue refunds of his illegal tariffs to every American business that has been forced to pay those tariffs. Donald Trump, being the most incompetent
1:01.2	president in history and the president who knows the least about what his own government is doing,
1:07.5	his own White House, at any given moment moment means that it is very likely tonight.
1:14.0	That Donald Trump is learning this for the first time.
1:16.2	It is very likely tonight that Donald Trump does not know until I just said it,
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