Lawfare Daily: What the ‘Kids’ Think of NATO with Rachel Rizzo
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🗓️ 3 June 2024
⏱️ 31 minutes
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Rachel Rizzo, a nonresident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Europe Center, joins Lawfare Managing Editor Tyler McBrien to talk about last month’s NATO Youth Summit. Building off of her chapter “NATO, Public Opinion, and the Next Generation: Remaining Relevant, Remaining Strong,” in the 2021 book, “NATO 2030: Towards a New Strategic Concept and Beyond,” Rizzo discusses what NATO thinks of Gen Z and Millennials, the many efforts the Alliance is making to pitch to them its relevance and purpose, and the ways in which NATO could better integrate youth voices into discussions about the Alliance’s future. She also explains how and why Gen Z and Millennial views on NATO, foreign policy, and America’s changing role in the world differ from older generations. And yes, they even discuss Taylor Swift and Olivia Rodrigo.
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| 0:28.4 | So I think you're seeing more of an effort on behalf of policy institutions but also |
| 0:37.6 | policymakers trying to ensure that NATO and foreign policy is better understood amongst youth populations. |
| 0:46.0 | It's the Lawfair Podcast. |
| 0:48.0 | I'm Tyler McBrien, managing editor of Lawfair, with Rachel Rizzo, |
| 0:52.0 | a non-resident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council's Europe Center. |
| 0:56.0 | The views and opinions of emerging foreign policy practitioners today are going to translate |
| 1:02.4 | into the real world policies and strategies that we will see over the next 10 years. |
| 1:08.0 | Today we're talking about what younger generations, specifically Gen Z and millennials, think of NATO, as well as what |
| 1:14.8 | NATO thinks of the youth, and how it views the next generation of leaders. |
| 1:19.3 | So Rachel, as you probably very well know, the NATO Youth Summit just wrapped up around mid-May. |
| 1:26.5 | What is the NATO Youth Summit? |
| 1:27.9 | What is your experience with it and why even have a NATO Youth Summit? |
| 1:32.2 | So I think there's an understanding. have an |
| 1:33.9 | summit. So I think there's an understanding amongst leaders that youth opinion really |
| 1:39.2 | matters, especially the opinion of youth that can cast votes and really affect political outcomes. |
| 1:47.6 | This is an active generation. They care about their communities, |
| 1:51.9 | they care about politics and foreign policy and they can shape politics and foreign policy in a way |
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