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Lawfare Daily: Understanding the DC Circuit Court's Decision on TikTok

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🗓️ 13 December 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

At a virtual panel conversation co-hosted by Lawfare and NYU's Center for Technology Policy, center Director Scott Brennen moderated a conversation between Lawfare Senior Editor and University of Minnesota law professor Alan Rozenshtein, University of North Carolina law professor Mary-Rose Papandrea, and Georgetown law professor Anupam Chander, about the recent D.C. Circuit decision upholding the TikTok divestment-or-ban law and what that means for the future of both TikTok and the First Amendment.

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gmail.com. I think the government here did at least a convincing job to this panel of emphasizing

1:08.3

the danger of TikTok, China, social media, privacy.

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You know, we've got to act.

1:14.7

And the court said, okay, you got it.

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It's the Lawfare podcast.

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I'm Alan Rosenstein, associate professor at the University of Minnesota Law School and senior

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editor and research director at Lawfare.

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But it's also true that covert manipulation by China is occurring on all the apps.

1:32.3

Okay? So covert manipulation is occurring everywhere. So now the question is, is this place uniquely subject to this?

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And then the question then is, what is our response?

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Today, we're bringing you a recording of a virtual panel co-hosted by Lawfare and NYU's

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Center on Technology Policy about the recent D.C. Circuit decision upholding the TikTok

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divestment or ban legislation. Scott Brennan, the center's director, led a conversation between me,

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