Lawfare Daily: Trump's Board of Peace and What's Next for Gaza, with Joel Braunold
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🗓️ 21 January 2026
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Summary
On today's episode, Lawfare Senior Editor Scott R. Anderson sits down with Joel Braunold, the managing director of The Center Project and a Lawfare contributing editor, to talk over the Trump administration's recently released plans for the Board of Peace tasked with implementing its peace plan for Gaza.
Together, they discuss the details of the plan, how it intersects with the Trump administration's twenty-point peace plan, the state of international relations surrounding the ceasefire in Gaza, and what it can all tell us about what might come next.
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| 0:00.0 | Who is going to pay for the reconstruction of Gaza? |
| 0:05.0 | And are people willing to just pay if the reconstruction is just on the Israeli side? |
| 0:10.0 | The Qataris have, during the Doha Forum has now said that they're not willing to invest on the Israeli side of Gaza. |
| 0:16.0 | It's seemingly clear the Saudis are not willing to. |
| 0:18.0 | So will the UAE be the only ones funding on sort of |
| 0:22.4 | that side of Gaza? Again, unclear. What is that going to look like? It's the Lawfare podcast. |
| 0:28.5 | I'm senior editor Scott R. Anderson with Joel Brownald, managing director of the Center |
| 0:32.7 | Project. One of the main stays for Israel has to try and avoid the internationalization of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. |
| 0:41.1 | And what's gone on in Gaza and with the Board of Peace and all of these different international vehicles, |
| 0:46.3 | even though they're dominated by President Trump, goes against that in a pretty hardcore way. |
| 0:52.0 | Today we're discussing that Trump administration's new Board of Peace, |
| 0:55.3 | the role it appears poised to play in rebuilding and maintaining peace in Gaza. |
| 1:00.0 | So, Joel, we are recording this on January 20th. |
| 1:03.7 | This is the first year anniversary of the second Trump presidency. |
| 1:07.6 | And really one of the big foreign policy accomplishments, and I think one of the ones that at least I would argue is more well earned among the various plot as this administration sometimes claims, is the fact that it's achieved this peace plan in Gaza that now has buy-in from the UN Security Council to some extent, buy-in from number of regional actors, and that hit a milestone |
| 1:28.5 | of its own this past week, at least according to the administration, which said they're |
| 1:32.3 | officially entering phase two of that plan, which ultimately is supposed to end with a restructured |
| 1:38.3 | Gaza and a peaceful Gaza, a resolution of a lot of the issues that have been outstanding there. |
| 1:44.0 | Talk to us |
| 1:44.3 | about where we are, what this means to be entering phase two, and where we actually are in terms |
| 1:49.6 | of the trajectory out of the Gaza crisis we've all been living through for the last several years. |
| 1:55.1 | Thanks, Scott, and it's great now in 2026 to continue our quarterly updates, and always a pleasure to be with you in lawfare. |
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