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Lawfare Daily: The Trials of the Trump Administration, Jan. 16

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🗓️ 19 January 2026

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Summary

In a live conversation on YouTube, Lawfare Editor in Chief Benjamin Wittes sat down with Lawfare Senior Editors Anna Bower, Roger Parloff, Michael Feinberg and Molly Roberts to discuss the investigation of Federal Reserve chair Jerome Powell, Senator Mark Kelly’s suit against the Department of Defense, Illinois and Minnesota’s lawsuits against the Department of Homeland Security over an increase in deployment of federal immigration enforcement agents, and more.


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0:00.0

It's the Lawfare podcast. I'm Benjamin Wittes, editor-in-chief of Lawfare with Lawfare

0:11.6

Senior Editors, Anna Bauer, Roger Parloff, Michael Feinberg, and Molly Roberts.

0:18.0

In the January 16th episode of the Tri trials of the Trump administration, we talked about

0:24.2

the investigation of Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, not to mention of Letitia James's

0:31.4

relationship with her hairdresser, Senator Mark Kelly's suit against the Department of Defense,

0:40.0

Illinois and Minnesota's lawsuits against the Department of Defense, Illinois and Minnesota's lawsuits against the Department of Homeland Security over the increase in federal immigration enforcement

0:46.9

agents in those states, and much, much more.

1:00.0

It is Friday, January 16th, 2020. It is 4 o'clock p.m. in Washington, D.C., and you are watching Lawfare Live, the trials of the Trump administration.

1:13.3

I am Benjamin Wittes, editor-in-chief of Lawfare, and I am here with four Lawfare senior editors in order of, in which they happen to

1:23.0

appear on my screen. Roger Parloff, Mike Feinberg, Molly Roberts, and Anna Bauer.

1:31.4

And we got a lot of ground to cover today.

1:34.3

And just looking at our planning document, the politicization of the Justice Department section

1:40.4

is particularly long and meaty.

1:43.7

And it involves words like Letitia James's hairdresser.

1:49.9

So I'm excited about it. Let's get right into it. Let's start with the search of the Washington

1:57.8

Post journalist's house, Molly Roberts. This is a former colleague of yours,

2:05.3

and I believe, if the gossip trail is correct, a former high school mate of yours. Is that right?

2:14.2

That's right. Yeah, depending on your definition of colleague, we worked together on the high school newspaper,

2:19.8

the college newspaper, and at the Washington Post.

2:22.3

But I know her, I don't know her well.

2:25.9

So I do not consider myself conflicted in the matter.

2:29.7

All right.

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